Wednesday, 27 May 2009
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Leftovers
By Laura Wiess
see relatedOh mirror in the sky...WHAT IS LOVE?
So...what I would like to find is a man who isn't completely obsessed with sex, who actually motivates me to want to grow closer to God. Is that too much to ask?????
Paul said it's better to get married than to burn with lust...and yet it is the people who get married for that exact reason who are more than likely doomed to fail. God designed sex for marriage, I understand that. And I believe in it 100%. I even wrote an article for my campus newspaper explaining that. But at the same time, studies show it's unhealthy to repress your sexual desires for an extended amount of time. Sometimes it's difficult to take that True Love Waits slogan seriously when you're halfway done with college and wondering exactly what it is you're waiting for...
But don't worry, I'm not about to lose all control and go on a sexual rampage or anything...If God hasn't planned for me to get married than so be it. I mean really, the pleasures of sex and human love and companionship are so fleeting when put in the light of eternity. Not to minimize the importance of marriage, just putting things into perspective. I won't be lying on my death bed at 110 years old, looking back on my life and all my accomplishments..."Found a cure for cancer, CHECK...won the Nobel Prize, CHECK...saved 70 people from a burning building, CHECK...wait a minute...I never had sex?!? WHAT??!!! OMG PLEASE DON'T LET ME DIE A VIRGIN, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!"
Yeah, I think you get the point

Staying strong,
~Sarah Beth

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Comments (17)
Best of wishes finding someone like that. Much respect for choosing to wait and sticking to it.
Hmm- I'm a afraid I'm too cynical to believe in all that happening for me. :(
what a minute...I never had sex?!? WHAT??!!! OMG PLEASE DON'T LET ME DIE A VIRGIN, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!"
ROFLOL!!! That's hilarious!
That's why I don't really think a person should save it until after marriage - I mean, you don't know if that person does things like clean themselves down there, or if their drive will meet yours, or if their style meets yours (sensual, romantic, rough, raunchy, etc) - but then again, you should only go ahead and do it with those whom you truly, deeply care about. As long as they're up for it too.
I think there seems to be all this controversy even within Christianity itself - I've met christian men who say that sex isn't always sinful or dirty before marriage. I should refer you to NSFWChristian, his page probably has material you would find beneficial to read. I can't say much more, as I haven't studied Christianity and it ain't my field.
At your point, you may either have to update/modify your opinions and logic slightly, or, continue with the path you're going down, but know that you're staking it on chances that may be against you, as men who've saved it to the age suitable for you to date, are devoted Christians, AND have other things in common with you enough to have a successful relationship that can turn into a marriage without the pressure of hastening to do so as to the purpose of consent to have sex, are very rare and few in between.
@Coffee_Kaioken - Here's what I have to say to those who worry about being sexually compatible if they choose to wait until marriage: logically, if a man has a penis and a woman has a vagina, then BAM! They are sexually compatible! But on a serious note, the things that you mentioned may be valid concerns, however they are rooted in selfishness. The person (and by that I don't mean you necessarily, just in general) who worries about his or her marriage being unsuccessful because of what their partner may or may not like in the bedroom is thinking of HIS/HER wants, HIS/HER needs, and not those of their partner. What people need to realize is that sex does not make the marriage, it is only a part of it. What holds a marriage together is mutual love, honesty, and respect of one another, and constantly putting your own desires last and putting your spouse before you. Humans don't come with a test-driving policy, they are not meant to be disposable if they fail to meet our expectations. And when all else fails...well, sex therapists exist for a reason
The controversy among Christians that you mentioned all boils down to how the Bible is interpreted. Those who believe that sex outside of marriage is okay fail to understand it as God designed it: a bond between husband and wife. If the word of God is true (and that is an entirely different debate altogether) then His views on sex do not change even if ours do. As Christians, we can't pick and choose the parts of the Bible that appeal to us and ignore the rest.
I'm not going to modify my beliefs on the off chance that I may never find anyone who agrees with me. Not being a virgin isn't going to be a deal-breaker for me. I realize that everyone has a past they can't change. I am coming to terms with the fact that while marriage is something that is important to me, my life won't be lacking if it never happens. I may miss out on some wonderful things that come with it but ultimately my satisfaction isn't going to be found in a man that I'm going to spend the rest of my life with. My satisfaction is with God, and God alone.
I'm just curious what it will take for you to lose your virginity to someone if you aren't married to them, in light of what you wrote in your Datingish article. I respect you for wanting to save your virginity even if not for marriage, but what are the conditions that must be met in order for you to even consider it?
@sarahzthoughts - As different as our personal beliefs and/or philosophies are, I must say, I'm not only impressed but in awe of your dedication, devotion, and enthusiasm for your religion. I'm actually a bit jealous, too. You've really got a passion going there, Sarah.
Agreed that sex does not primarily constitute the relationship, that honesty, trust, intimacy, and other shared values in common, constitute it - and of course, sexual behaviors and patterns can of course adapt.
Tell ya what - is it alright by you if I come back here and list what is necessary for me to consider it? It's 12:54 am where I am, I'd like to go to bed and wake tomorrow at 9-10.
@Coffee_Kaioken - No, it is absolutely NOT okay!
Just kidding, feel free to stop by any time!
And thank you very much for your compliment
@sarahzthoughts - hah, no prob.
Hey, before I venture off into the waterfalls and circuses that await me in R.E.M, I must note - you're like, 20-21. By the content of your posts and your profile pic, I'd assumed you were 25-ish. What's with older people looking young (people 35-ish look 25) and younger people looking old? I know 13 year olds who look 18 and I even met a 19-year old looking person who was actually 25...
@Coffee_Kaioken - Wow, seriously? That's strange. I get told all the time that I look 12. I still get carded going into R-rated movies, even. Maybe you'd change your mind if you actually met me in person. I guess I just had the right angle and lighting or whatever when I took that picture...weird.
@sarahzthoughts - haha. IRL I look 22, and I'm 19. Oh, that one time where the bartenders didn't ID you at the wedding reception... ^_^
Alrighty, nighty!
I'm late with this but it is better late than never.
Well, first it'll take trust. I'll have to know she's not playing any games, she can't be too mysterious because I have to know and trust that she's going to be in my life for some time. If our relationship is mostly flirtatious and I don't know about her history, her exes (I've accepted that it's going to be just as hard to find a more conservative girl as it is a conservative guy, so of course she'll be experienced, but if she's slept with more than, let's say, 6-7...), her family, friends, what she does with her time, it can't happen.
Secondly, she definitely has to be somewhat attractive. I don't mean look like a model, obviously, but I won't tolerate someone who lets themselves go. And it also depends on if she's patient, if she also has standards, and she can't just say "Yeah, I'm saving it for marriage, yeah, I agree, yeah, me too" - I pick up on this every single time a girl has said it and later on she turned out to just be trying to go along with something, weak minded, and no individualism.
Third, definitely show some maturity. She can't be all giddy and hyper and ditzy 100% of the time. I'd like her to have actual opinions, thoughts, and be an individual.
She can't be a ridiculous person, like, she can't be attracted to a guy only the moment he stops talking to her and turns the other way, and then stops feeling attraction for him when he turns back around and acknowledges her.
She can't be impossible to work with, and I can't be on edge feeling like I have to keep some sort of mysterious tension or act like some sort of suave, smooth, PUA to keep her attention. I won't like if I sense her looking me up and down when we first meet and I know that she's "sizing me up in 5 minutes" or whatever. I'll definitely internet-search her and anything linked with her e-mail, and if she has stuff on her journal or social profile page that I find sketchy (like posts on her profile from some weird guy that she isn't explaining things to me about), I won't immediately break up with her over it but I'm not doing anything too personal.
Basically, I have to know her. I have to know most, if not all (of course you're not going to know absolutely everything) of the important and crucial parts about her, I have to trust that the relationship isn't going to end right afterwards (unless we both find out that she's moving away somewhere for keeps and we were extremely close until the shitty situation came around, and we want one last night to remember each other by), I have to know that she isn't employing manipulative psychological techniques that those dating books sell you - basically, genuinity, to sum it all up.
And I don't think that comes after marriage.
Winning the Nobel prize < Finding love
@ModernBunny - Oh, I've found it...just not the let's-settle-down-and-make-babies kind of love...yet
Hey--I read your comment on the revelife page and saw you just accepted Christ this year. It sounds like an exciting story, so I just wanted to leave you a comment and say congratulations and wish you the best.
It's great to see a new Christian with so much understanding. You are right on that we can't just accept certain parts of scripture and ignore the ones we don't like. I've seen so many that don't understand that.
Keep waiting and trusting in God and He'll give you better than you could ever imagine.
@k_stin - Well technically it was last year...somewhere in October of 2008. It has definitely been an adventure. Thank you so much!
@Tom@revelife - Just because I understand we can't pick and choose doesn't mean I'm not guilty of it from time to time...everyone is to a certain extent, and sometimes it's easier to know something instead of actually try and understand what the purpose of it is, if that makes sense. Everything I understand at this point has been made clear through extensive discussions with my bible study group and some older, more experienced Christian friends of mine. If it weren't for fellowship and accountability I might still be pretty clueless. And I still have a lot more to learn. Thanks for stopping by!
So...what I would like to find is a man who isn't completely
obsessed with sex, who actually motivates me to want to grow closer to
God. Is that too much to ask?????
sorry, guys are ALWAYS horny.... even the christian ones.
being a christian myself, i'd know, lol. but yeah... as a guy, there's a lot to be said about balance. you need to be able to express your physical desires as easily and as well as your spiritual ones, for a healthy relationship. i'm still a virgin, too, don't get me wrong. i'm also a decent guy. i'm just saying all guys are all about sex. it's programmed into our minds and the society we live in doesn't help anything.